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Why Fuzz Face up Sounds Terrible?

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I but built a General Guitar Gadgets silicon Fuzz. Sounds Amazing when I plug it into a clean or slightly dirty solid state amp but when I plug it into my 1974 1959 Superlead, it sounds weak & thin?

Anyone know why? My amp seems to dislike some distortion pedals. Sounds like the amp can't take it or something.:hmm:

From what I understand, a fuzz in front of a cranked Marshall should piece of work and sound fine?

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Getting a fuzz to audio good is no walk in the park. It'south a temperamental pedal, that's for certain.
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Even with Marshalls , they seem to work best into a clean amp
I can imagine goin' into the brite channel of a 1959 information technology can be kinda ....gnatty
Attempt jumpin the channels , settin' the amp make clean and crankin the fuzz face ....employ your guitar volume to manage the amount of fuzz /overdrive / clean tone

My 2c anyway

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Try jumpin the channels , settin' the amp clean and crankin the fuzz face ....apply your guitar volume to manage the corporeality of fuzz /overdrive / make clean tone

Done that. I normally leap the channels.... Tried all combinations of amp settings & jumper combinations.

My Rat pedals sound awesome with my Marshall.

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Well I call that sound a sound which doesn't lucifer the input yous're using.

it must exist doubleing or tripleing the blazon of sound and information technology gets super sparse and nasty.

plug into the other input.
crusade the pedal has all the squarewave sound y'all could ever need.

you might exist able to hear, if you play a vintage strat, a sound with multiple notes in information technology. 1 sound is clean and the other is fully distorted.
the pedal just makes a audio which 'seems to sound like' a big amp which is making cleaved up crunchy sounds.
merely y'all accept the ability to play loud or quiet, at your finger tips.

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Now I get the joke! duh lol long day
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Done that. I normally jump the channels.... Tried all combinations of amp settings & jumper combinations.

My Rat pedals audio awesome with my Marshall.


Well dammit to hell, Im useless

But ,here'due south what I think a FF should sound like

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/spotter?v=AcTizMq3D3A[/ame]

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Fuzz Faces are very simple distortion circuits. A lot of the tone shaping and smoothing y'all're used to from a modernistic distortion or overdrive doesn't be here. I've plant I don't care much for a fuzz pedal through a make clean amp, but using one every bit a boost on a slightly dirty amp is pretty crawly since you lot get tube clipping to assistance shape the original distorted signal.
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Joe Perry on Fuzz Face 1974
Too bad they cut the Petty Richard intro on this one ......

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EAfapglfs8[/ame]

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Just dug mine out & played with it ,both in the low sens input in a 2 holer and with a 4 holer
What I found .....very treble sensitive .
If yous're jumpin channels you definitely wanna dial some brite aqueduct OUT or just use the bass /normal channel ,if information technology's too sparse

Once more , the manner I similar a fuzz face is both knobs on the pedal cranked ,into a fairly clean amp (loud) Pedal ON all the time (similar the sometime days)
Germanium in detail loves to make clean up as the volume goes downwardly
Full on psych-fuzz with the guitar broad open up
A pretty good fatty gig worthy overdrive with the guitar around 7-8
And hopefully a sparkly surf /country make clean with the guitar around 3 or and then

I could see myself doing a wing-in gig with a strat like this if I had to ,without my other guitars

I have seen some guys using FF's ,I suppose merely because Jimi did ...and they sound horrible . Jimi was a f*ck*due north master ...primary of strats , tone ,Marshalls ,fuzz faces ,everything
This one guy been gettin a lotta hype final couple years (I aint naming names ) and his second guitar role player using fuzz faces thru twin reverbs
F*ck*n HORRIBLE ....made me wanna vomit

Information technology's not a pedal us average boneheads can plug in an instantly kill information technology
They take some piece of work
I deport one i fabricated with me when I travel,just in case I have to try and do a gig with it ....in a place where I cant crank a rented and then-and-and so amp to go some good tones
I actually made a pedal that's like One-half a fuzz face ...works pretty well for gettin fat OD,most fuzz sounds ,with a footling more control
Rontrose from Supersuckers chosen it a "fuzz screamer"

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The Fuzz face can be a actually finicky excursion, peculiarly when using germanium transistors. It was not uncommon in the mean solar day for guitarist to go through cases of FF's to find the one that sounds good.

I have two FF's that I made myself. The biggest hurdles to making a FF sound expert is to observe the transistors with the proper gain rating and with out excessive leakage if using germanium transistors. Then they have to be biased properly and why on earth the factory FF's have never been produced with reverse audio taper pots for the fuzz/proceeds command is beyond me.

A properly assembled and biased FF will sound amazing through most amps

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I have an older Jim Dunlop-made one, I can't become a very good sound out of information technology through my Marshall, at to the lowest degree not when compared to the other distortion pedals I have. It actually sounds all-time through my picayune late-'50's Supro..Sounds pretty dang absurd through that one! :cool:

I always had trouble getting a good sound with Tubescreamer-manner pedals besides, till I scored the Maxon OD 820 last year. That's a groovy pedal! :D

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This might exist a smidge off topic ,merely ...I have an onetime maestro mfz ( fuzz ) pedal .The one with the big wheels for volume and fuzz. which sounds awesome thru my kustom 200 with 2 - fifteen in jbls Both I got in mid lxx,s .
My question is this pedal the same blazon tthing as the fuzz face?

Information technology sounds terrible tho thru my 86 2204

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I forgot another fundamental component to getting a good fuzz confront sound ....
CURLY CORDS....office of the reason Jimi'due south strat doesnt sound like Dire Straits
Use i or two, depending how much high end taming you need...
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The biggest hurdles to making a FF sound skillful is to observe the transistors with the proper gain rating and with out excessive leakage if using germanium transistors. So they take to be biased properly and why on earth the factory FF's have never been produced with reverse sound taper pots for the fuzz/gain control is beyond me.

A properly assembled and biased FF will sound astonishing through most amps


Y'all are correct about setting the proper bias to the Ge transistors, and right bias changes with temperature change. Some fuzz pedal makers actually put the bias pot as an aligning on the pedal so the guitarist can "dial it in" to make information technology sound good depending how hot the venue is.

Hither'south somebody who uses a FF... Complete with curly cord.

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Blue Cheer !

I got some enclosures awhile back that kinda wait like squared off tonebender enclosures .I planned to make a 3 knob fuzz face with a "allegiance" (bias) knob ....which Im sure someone already makes ...I just oasis't fabricated one yet

The 1st one I made . The knobs came from the radio outa my pickup truck (yes,I know they're supposed to be backwards.....) yeah,looks like sh*t,Sounds Keen

This one I made from a radio I got outa the trash,can't remember where I got the knobs ....

The "Lab"

This might be a smidge off topic ,merely ...I accept an old maestro mfz ( fuzz ) pedal .The one with the big wheels for volume and fuzz. which sounds awesome thru my kustom 200 with 2 - 15 in jbls Both I got in mid 70,s .
My question is this pedal the same type tthing equally the fuzz face?

It sounds terrible tho thru my 86 2204

Nope ,funny pedal though . I got one , I think I should keep it close past onstage ,in case I have to throw information technology at somebody ......
I'd rather take the phaser ....SPEED / Assurance

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Ane of three options hither:

1) Install a (FWR) Pull a fast one on Wah Retrofit which is not limited to existence used only with wah pedals. Read this folio...http://www.foxroxelectronics.com/FoxroxWahRetrofit.html
2) Convert your split cathode 1959 Super Atomic number 82 to 1992 Super Bass shared cathode excursion.
3) Practise both i & two

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Foolin effectually with ane of my Germanium FF copies
Workin the volume control on the guitar merely to illustrate the dirt / make clean spectrum
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Nope ,funny pedal though . I got i , I recall I should keep it close past onstage ,in case I accept to throw information technology at somebody ......
I'd rather take the phaser ....SPEED / BALLS

LOL yup call up the Phaser, that picture show definitely takes exist dorsum a few years. What a giant wedge of a pedal!

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